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Corey Dillon: Bengals’ Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame omissions are ‘near-criminal’
18 Oct 1998: Halfback Corey Dillon #28 of the Cincinnati Bengals looks on during the game against the Tennessee Oilers at the Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. The Oilers defeated the Bengals 44-14. Mandatory Credit: Stephen Dunn /Allsport
By Paul Dehner Jr.
Jul 6, 2023
170
Save Article
On June 5, I reached out to Corey Dillon for a story I was researching about one of his former teammates.
Dillon texted back to set up a phone call, and after a brief discussion of the topic I was calling about, the Bengals legend shifted to a message he wanted to deliver. An explosive one. About the Ring of Honor voting, the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the inexplicable way he thinks his career has been viewed.
It was a message that put his famous “I’d rather flip burgers” rant to shame. He’s tired of being quiet. He’s tired of perception shaping reality. He’s tired of his undeniable numbers somehow not being enough to move the needle for season ticket holders voting in the Ring of Honor and beyond.
“You know the f—ery that’s going on,” he said. “We can shoot this straight. That’s the only way I like it.”
Corey Dillon is the Bengals’ all-time rushing leader with 8,061 yards. (Andy Lyons / Getty Images)
Toward the end of a 27-minute eruption of facts and frustration from the four-time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champ and Bengals’ all-time leading rusher, I asked a simple question for extreme clarity.
Corey, what do you want me to do with all this? Do you want your voice out there?
“Man, you can quote me word-for-f—ing-word,” he said. “Print it. Because nobody gets this s—. I want it exactly how I told you. No spins. No nothing.”
Dillon sits as one of 10 running backs in the Super Bowl era whose career featured 4.3 yards per carry, 70 yards rushing per game and 10,000 total rushing yards. Eight are in (or will be first-ballot for) the Pro Football Hall of Fame; the others are Dillon and Fred Taylor.
Super Bowl era RBs: 4.3, 70, 10K club
Walter Payton
4.4
88
16,726
Y
Barry Sanders
5
100
15,269
Y
Adrian Peterson
4.6
81
14,918
N/A
LaDainian Tomlinson
4.3
81
13,684
Y
Eric Dickerson
4.4
91
13,259
Y
Tony Dorsett
4.3
74
12,739
Y
Marshall Faulk
4.3
70
12,279
Y
Fred Taylor
4.6
76
11,695
N
Corey Dillon
4.3
75
11,241
N
O.J. Simpson
4.7
83
11,236
Y
Dillon is one of just six running backs in the Super Bowl era with at least four seasons of 1,100 yards rushing and 4.6 yards per carry. Only Barry Sanders (seven) and Taylor (seven) have more.
Dillon began his career with six consecutive 1,100-yard rushing seasons, averaging 4.4 yards per carry and 80 rushing yards per game in that span. He did so with defenses consistently stacked against him as the Bengals quarterbacks struggled. Only 16 of those 84 starts featured a quarterback with even an average passer rating, and most ranked near the bottom of the NFL.
• Jon Kitna (27 starts): 69.2 passer rating
• Jeff Blake (23): 77.7
• Akili Smith (17): 52.8
• Neil O’Donnell (11): 90.2
• Boomer Esiason (5): 106.9
• Scott Mitchell (5): 44.0
• Paul Justin (3): 60.7
• Gus Frerotte (3): 46.1
• NFL average PR 1997-2002 (min. 500 attempts): 79.6
Dillon broke Jim Brown’s rookie rushing record that stood for 40 years with 246 yards (and four touchdowns) in a game in 1997. He broke Walter Payton’s single-game rushing record that stood for 23 years with 278 yards in 2000. He averaged more yards per carry that year than his quarterbacks’ yards per attempt.
Corey Dillon finds open field against the Broncos during his record-setting 278-yard rushing performance in 2000. The Bengals threw for only 34 yards in the 31-21 win. (Jonathan Daniel / Getty Images)
He won a Super Bowl with the New England Patriots in 2004, racking up 1,635 yards and 109 per game, earning the nickname Clock Killin’ Corey Dillon at age 30. The only other running backs in history to post those numbers in a championship season were Terrell Davis (1997, 1998) and Emmitt Smith (1995).
His case lies with not only the rarified air of his stats but also running backs in the Hall, playing their entire career in the Super Bowl era without nearing his numbers.
• Fewer than 10,000 career yards (3): Earl Campbell, Larry Csonka, Davis.
• Under 4.2 yards per carry (6): Franco Harris (4.1), Marcus Allen (4.1), Edgerrin James (4.0), Curtis Martin (4.0), Jerome Bettis (3.9), John Riggins (3.9).
• One or zero seasons of 1,100/4.6 (8): James (1), Martin (1), Bettis (1), Allen (1), Harris (1), Csonka (1), Riggins (0), Floyd Little (0)
Yet Dillon has never been even a semifinalist for the Hall of Fame. As the Bengals’ Ring of Honor voting has begun in recent years, he’s been an afterthought in votes cast by season ticket holders. The next two inductees should be announced later this month, and the expectation is Dillon will be left off again, though he is one of 13 nominees.
His case speaks for itself. But that hasn’t been enough. So, he offered these thoughts on all of the above. Word-for-f—ing-word. No spins. No nothing.
(Note: Conversation has been lightly edited for clarity.)
Dillon: I don’t pull no punches, and I’m not ducking anybody. I don’t have no friends I’m trying to protect, so I can speak freely about whatever I need to speak freely about. It’s damn-near criminal, what (Bengals Ring of Honor voters) are pulling off, to be honest with you. Did I not play for them? I don’t know, bro. I’m curious about that. Because it looks like they are glossing over me. For what reason? Because I left? That’s not a good enough reason. You are telling me there’s five other guys better than me — at my position? And trust me, this is no knock on whoever is getting in, who goes in, that’s not what it is about. It’s about what is your excuse going to be? I’m pretty sure they will put f—ing Jon Kitna in there before they put me. Matter of fact, Scott Mitchell will end up in that motherf—er before I do.
I think there are bigger things than that. I think you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame consideration.
I want it all. I am coming for it all. You know why? Because I earned it. I’m not one of these borderline guys sitting on my ass reminiscing, talking about, “Oh, if I had this, shoulda, coulda, woulda.” No. I’m justified. Why not? What it does, it breaks down to what I thought initially — which I hope it’s not true — I think they are mad at me for being vocal and going on to win a championship. That’s the only thing I can think of.
I have this stat I pull out about your career — how you have never been in the conversation for the Hall of Fame, one of 10 running backs with 4.3/10K/70. Eight are in the Hall or going to be. The others are you and Fred Taylor. And you did it with no quarterbacks, broke the rookie record of 246, broke the single-game record of 278 and have a massive role on a team that won a title. Your career checks every single box.
That’s why I resurfaced, man. Because there has been a lot of wrong that needs to be un-wronged. Nobody gets this. I don’t want to get into people’s personal business, but there are a lot of Hall of Famers that did far more worse s— than I did. We can cancel out that excuse. There is no excuse for that. On top of that, I thought the game was predicated on numbers. Are people looking at the numbers like, “Nah, nah”? I don’t think so. (Dillon was arrested twice in a matter of weeks in 2010, the first time for DUI, the second for spousal abuse, though criminal charges were dropped due to lack of evidence weeks later. The DUI was reduced to a reckless driving charge, and he paid a fine and served two years’ probation. He was also charged with fourth-degree assault in 2000 after an altercation with his then-wife that resulted in a diversion program and donation to a women’s shelter.)
To me, your career checks every box someone would value. Longevity? Check. Playing great on a title team? Check. High moments? Check. Check. Consistency? Check. It has everything — I don’t get it.
The real ones know. There’s a lot of real ones out here that really know, and we have the same question. Like, what’s the deal? I’m taking it as an organizational move. Nobody is pushing the envelope for these guys. I’m not even talking about myself — I’m trying to push the envelope for others.
I’m not down in Cincinnati, in the main office saying hello to Mike Brown every day. That ain’t going to happen. That shouldn’t negate my accomplishments on the field. Nothing should negate what you do on the field because that’s where it’s actually done. I don’t know where this thing got out of context to on-the-field work versus off-the-field work and being a latter-day saint. S—, none of us are. I’m a God-fearing, Christian man. And I got issues, and I know everybody else do, too. So, there’s nobody running around here perfect. Everybody has something they aren’t proud of. People are running out of excuses.
Season ticket holder voting ends up with a lot of votes from people who never saw you play, and it can become a popularity contest.
And that’s garbage. That’s garbage. This should be solely predicated on the authorities of the Bengals. The owner. The president. Whatever. There should be a special committee. This ain’t a popularity contest. This is football. You are going to put in somebody who is more popular than somebody who got stats?
Bengals are smart. I give it to them. We will put it in the hands of the season ticket holders so they don’t have to take that backlash over who the voters are picking. That’s bulls—. The s— should come straight from the team. Half these season ticket holder people never seen half of us play.
Anthony Muñoz puts the Ring of Honor jacket on inductee Willie Anderson during the induction of the 2022 class. Anderson and Isaac Curtis joined inaugural members Muñoz, Ken Anderson, Ken Riley and Paul Brown in the Ring. (Sam Greene / USA Today)
All you can do is put the numbers out there.
You know the f—ery that’s going on. We can shoot this straight. That’s the only way I like it. I don’t need no sympathy f—ing vote. I don’t want that s—. Not at all. This is just straight man-to-man conversation s—. Here’s the facts. Where are people glossing over the facts? Chad (Johnson) was popular? That’s bulls—, bro. There’s a thousand motherf—ers more popular than me in football. Are their stats like mine? No.
I never played this game for a popularity vote. Never have. I played the game to win. And win and win and win again. I don’t know how this came off about, “Oh, we like him more.” Who gives a f—? Go out there and win games. To be honest, to keep it real, I’m the most decorated Bengal, period, outside of Anthony Muñoz — much respect; that’s one of my idols. He put in the work. So did both Kens (Riley and Anderson). Other than that, I should have been the next dude on.
I think you have the most compelling actual Pro Football HOF case among all those former Bengals who are eligible. You don’t see a collection of stats and seasons like that together, but a lot of season ticket holders didn’t come along until 2005.
Whose fault is that? Not mine. I’m trying to keep it as simple as possible. There is no f—ing excuse for what they are doing. Should Chad be in the Ring? Of course he should. He’s the best at wide receiver. F—ing right. I’m not trying to put player versus player — that’s not where I’m going. I’m going to the whole structure of how they are putting people in. It’s f—ed up. I tell you what, man, I don’t like my career being in the hands of any-f—ing-body, to be honest with you. Who are they to say if I’m worthy or not? That’s where I’m at with stuff. If you’ve been in the trenches and know what (a) sacrifice (it) is playing hurt, playing when you didn’t want to play, you don’t know. You think that s— was easy, going out there every week with a nine-man, eight-man box and suiting up and saying, “F— it, it’s time to go”? Who wants that? Who would suit up for that? That’s where I’m coming from.
Your number of yards gained grinding out against heavy boxes is wild.
Let me break this down to you: Was Willie Anderson double-teamed all f—ing day? Was Chad Johnson double-teamed all f—ing day? I don’t think so. Was the defense altering their defense to stop that guy only?
They were for you.
Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. We’re different.
Don’t let this get to you …
I set out to accomplish what I really wanted to accomplish, and that was winning that Super Bowl. That meant every-f—ing-thing to me because now I can talk s— forever because it validates every-f—ing-thing I’m saying. Everything. Everything. So, in hindsight, I’m just coming from a place now — now that we’re talking about it — I want the whole pie.
Did I not play? And don’t make this a Cincinnati thing, because I’m about to get on the Pats’ ass, too. It’s coming. I’m coming for it all. Give it to me while I’m breathing. If anybody wants to disagree, just go look at the f—ing numbers and have a Coke and smile.
Paul Dehner Jr.
Paul Dehner Jr. is a senior writer and podcast host for The Athletic. He's been covering the Bengals and NFL since 2009, most notably, for six seasons with The Cincinnati Enquirer. He's born, raised and proudly Cincinnati. Follow Paul on Twitter @pauldehnerjr
Corey Dillon: Bengals’ Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame omissions are ‘near-criminal’
18 Oct 1998: Halfback Corey Dillon #28 of the Cincinnati Bengals looks on during the game against the Tennessee Oilers at the Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville, Tennessee. The Oilers defeated the Bengals 44-14. Mandatory Credit: Stephen Dunn /Allsport
By Paul Dehner Jr.
Jul 6, 2023
170
Save Article
On June 5, I reached out to Corey Dillon for a story I was researching about one of his former teammates.
Dillon texted back to set up a phone call, and after a brief discussion of the topic I was calling about, the Bengals legend shifted to a message he wanted to deliver. An explosive one. About the Ring of Honor voting, the Pro Football Hall of Fame and the inexplicable way he thinks his career has been viewed.
It was a message that put his famous “I’d rather flip burgers” rant to shame. He’s tired of being quiet. He’s tired of perception shaping reality. He’s tired of his undeniable numbers somehow not being enough to move the needle for season ticket holders voting in the Ring of Honor and beyond.
“You know the f—ery that’s going on,” he said. “We can shoot this straight. That’s the only way I like it.”
Corey Dillon is the Bengals’ all-time rushing leader with 8,061 yards. (Andy Lyons / Getty Images)
Toward the end of a 27-minute eruption of facts and frustration from the four-time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champ and Bengals’ all-time leading rusher, I asked a simple question for extreme clarity.
Corey, what do you want me to do with all this? Do you want your voice out there?
“Man, you can quote me word-for-f—ing-word,” he said. “Print it. Because nobody gets this s—. I want it exactly how I told you. No spins. No nothing.”
Dillon sits as one of 10 running backs in the Super Bowl era whose career featured 4.3 yards per carry, 70 yards rushing per game and 10,000 total rushing yards. Eight are in (or will be first-ballot for) the Pro Football Hall of Fame; the others are Dillon and Fred Taylor.
Super Bowl era RBs: 4.3, 70, 10K club
Walter Payton
4.4
88
16,726
Y
Barry Sanders
5
100
15,269
Y
Adrian Peterson
4.6
81
14,918
N/A
LaDainian Tomlinson
4.3
81
13,684
Y
Eric Dickerson
4.4
91
13,259
Y
Tony Dorsett
4.3
74
12,739
Y
Marshall Faulk
4.3
70
12,279
Y
Fred Taylor
4.6
76
11,695
N
Corey Dillon
4.3
75
11,241
N
O.J. Simpson
4.7
83
11,236
Y
Dillon is one of just six running backs in the Super Bowl era with at least four seasons of 1,100 yards rushing and 4.6 yards per carry. Only Barry Sanders (seven) and Taylor (seven) have more.
Dillon began his career with six consecutive 1,100-yard rushing seasons, averaging 4.4 yards per carry and 80 rushing yards per game in that span. He did so with defenses consistently stacked against him as the Bengals quarterbacks struggled. Only 16 of those 84 starts featured a quarterback with even an average passer rating, and most ranked near the bottom of the NFL.
• Jon Kitna (27 starts): 69.2 passer rating
• Jeff Blake (23): 77.7
• Akili Smith (17): 52.8
• Neil O’Donnell (11): 90.2
• Boomer Esiason (5): 106.9
• Scott Mitchell (5): 44.0
• Paul Justin (3): 60.7
• Gus Frerotte (3): 46.1
• NFL average PR 1997-2002 (min. 500 attempts): 79.6
Dillon broke Jim Brown’s rookie rushing record that stood for 40 years with 246 yards (and four touchdowns) in a game in 1997. He broke Walter Payton’s single-game rushing record that stood for 23 years with 278 yards in 2000. He averaged more yards per carry that year than his quarterbacks’ yards per attempt.
Corey Dillon finds open field against the Broncos during his record-setting 278-yard rushing performance in 2000. The Bengals threw for only 34 yards in the 31-21 win. (Jonathan Daniel / Getty Images)
He won a Super Bowl with the New England Patriots in 2004, racking up 1,635 yards and 109 per game, earning the nickname Clock Killin’ Corey Dillon at age 30. The only other running backs in history to post those numbers in a championship season were Terrell Davis (1997, 1998) and Emmitt Smith (1995).
His case lies with not only the rarified air of his stats but also running backs in the Hall, playing their entire career in the Super Bowl era without nearing his numbers.
• Fewer than 10,000 career yards (3): Earl Campbell, Larry Csonka, Davis.
• Under 4.2 yards per carry (6): Franco Harris (4.1), Marcus Allen (4.1), Edgerrin James (4.0), Curtis Martin (4.0), Jerome Bettis (3.9), John Riggins (3.9).
• One or zero seasons of 1,100/4.6 (8): James (1), Martin (1), Bettis (1), Allen (1), Harris (1), Csonka (1), Riggins (0), Floyd Little (0)
Yet Dillon has never been even a semifinalist for the Hall of Fame. As the Bengals’ Ring of Honor voting has begun in recent years, he’s been an afterthought in votes cast by season ticket holders. The next two inductees should be announced later this month, and the expectation is Dillon will be left off again, though he is one of 13 nominees.
His case speaks for itself. But that hasn’t been enough. So, he offered these thoughts on all of the above. Word-for-f—ing-word. No spins. No nothing.
(Note: Conversation has been lightly edited for clarity.)
Dillon: I don’t pull no punches, and I’m not ducking anybody. I don’t have no friends I’m trying to protect, so I can speak freely about whatever I need to speak freely about. It’s damn-near criminal, what (Bengals Ring of Honor voters) are pulling off, to be honest with you. Did I not play for them? I don’t know, bro. I’m curious about that. Because it looks like they are glossing over me. For what reason? Because I left? That’s not a good enough reason. You are telling me there’s five other guys better than me — at my position? And trust me, this is no knock on whoever is getting in, who goes in, that’s not what it is about. It’s about what is your excuse going to be? I’m pretty sure they will put f—ing Jon Kitna in there before they put me. Matter of fact, Scott Mitchell will end up in that motherf—er before I do.
I think there are bigger things than that. I think you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame consideration.
I want it all. I am coming for it all. You know why? Because I earned it. I’m not one of these borderline guys sitting on my ass reminiscing, talking about, “Oh, if I had this, shoulda, coulda, woulda.” No. I’m justified. Why not? What it does, it breaks down to what I thought initially — which I hope it’s not true — I think they are mad at me for being vocal and going on to win a championship. That’s the only thing I can think of.
I have this stat I pull out about your career — how you have never been in the conversation for the Hall of Fame, one of 10 running backs with 4.3/10K/70. Eight are in the Hall or going to be. The others are you and Fred Taylor. And you did it with no quarterbacks, broke the rookie record of 246, broke the single-game record of 278 and have a massive role on a team that won a title. Your career checks every single box.
That’s why I resurfaced, man. Because there has been a lot of wrong that needs to be un-wronged. Nobody gets this. I don’t want to get into people’s personal business, but there are a lot of Hall of Famers that did far more worse s— than I did. We can cancel out that excuse. There is no excuse for that. On top of that, I thought the game was predicated on numbers. Are people looking at the numbers like, “Nah, nah”? I don’t think so. (Dillon was arrested twice in a matter of weeks in 2010, the first time for DUI, the second for spousal abuse, though criminal charges were dropped due to lack of evidence weeks later. The DUI was reduced to a reckless driving charge, and he paid a fine and served two years’ probation. He was also charged with fourth-degree assault in 2000 after an altercation with his then-wife that resulted in a diversion program and donation to a women’s shelter.)
To me, your career checks every box someone would value. Longevity? Check. Playing great on a title team? Check. High moments? Check. Check. Consistency? Check. It has everything — I don’t get it.
The real ones know. There’s a lot of real ones out here that really know, and we have the same question. Like, what’s the deal? I’m taking it as an organizational move. Nobody is pushing the envelope for these guys. I’m not even talking about myself — I’m trying to push the envelope for others.
I’m not down in Cincinnati, in the main office saying hello to Mike Brown every day. That ain’t going to happen. That shouldn’t negate my accomplishments on the field. Nothing should negate what you do on the field because that’s where it’s actually done. I don’t know where this thing got out of context to on-the-field work versus off-the-field work and being a latter-day saint. S—, none of us are. I’m a God-fearing, Christian man. And I got issues, and I know everybody else do, too. So, there’s nobody running around here perfect. Everybody has something they aren’t proud of. People are running out of excuses.
Season ticket holder voting ends up with a lot of votes from people who never saw you play, and it can become a popularity contest.
And that’s garbage. That’s garbage. This should be solely predicated on the authorities of the Bengals. The owner. The president. Whatever. There should be a special committee. This ain’t a popularity contest. This is football. You are going to put in somebody who is more popular than somebody who got stats?
Bengals are smart. I give it to them. We will put it in the hands of the season ticket holders so they don’t have to take that backlash over who the voters are picking. That’s bulls—. The s— should come straight from the team. Half these season ticket holder people never seen half of us play.
Anthony Muñoz puts the Ring of Honor jacket on inductee Willie Anderson during the induction of the 2022 class. Anderson and Isaac Curtis joined inaugural members Muñoz, Ken Anderson, Ken Riley and Paul Brown in the Ring. (Sam Greene / USA Today)
All you can do is put the numbers out there.
You know the f—ery that’s going on. We can shoot this straight. That’s the only way I like it. I don’t need no sympathy f—ing vote. I don’t want that s—. Not at all. This is just straight man-to-man conversation s—. Here’s the facts. Where are people glossing over the facts? Chad (Johnson) was popular? That’s bulls—, bro. There’s a thousand motherf—ers more popular than me in football. Are their stats like mine? No.
I never played this game for a popularity vote. Never have. I played the game to win. And win and win and win again. I don’t know how this came off about, “Oh, we like him more.” Who gives a f—? Go out there and win games. To be honest, to keep it real, I’m the most decorated Bengal, period, outside of Anthony Muñoz — much respect; that’s one of my idols. He put in the work. So did both Kens (Riley and Anderson). Other than that, I should have been the next dude on.
I think you have the most compelling actual Pro Football HOF case among all those former Bengals who are eligible. You don’t see a collection of stats and seasons like that together, but a lot of season ticket holders didn’t come along until 2005.
Whose fault is that? Not mine. I’m trying to keep it as simple as possible. There is no f—ing excuse for what they are doing. Should Chad be in the Ring? Of course he should. He’s the best at wide receiver. F—ing right. I’m not trying to put player versus player — that’s not where I’m going. I’m going to the whole structure of how they are putting people in. It’s f—ed up. I tell you what, man, I don’t like my career being in the hands of any-f—ing-body, to be honest with you. Who are they to say if I’m worthy or not? That’s where I’m at with stuff. If you’ve been in the trenches and know what (a) sacrifice (it) is playing hurt, playing when you didn’t want to play, you don’t know. You think that s— was easy, going out there every week with a nine-man, eight-man box and suiting up and saying, “F— it, it’s time to go”? Who wants that? Who would suit up for that? That’s where I’m coming from.
Your number of yards gained grinding out against heavy boxes is wild.
Let me break this down to you: Was Willie Anderson double-teamed all f—ing day? Was Chad Johnson double-teamed all f—ing day? I don’t think so. Was the defense altering their defense to stop that guy only?
They were for you.
Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. We’re different.
Don’t let this get to you …
I set out to accomplish what I really wanted to accomplish, and that was winning that Super Bowl. That meant every-f—ing-thing to me because now I can talk s— forever because it validates every-f—ing-thing I’m saying. Everything. Everything. So, in hindsight, I’m just coming from a place now — now that we’re talking about it — I want the whole pie.
Did I not play? And don’t make this a Cincinnati thing, because I’m about to get on the Pats’ ass, too. It’s coming. I’m coming for it all. Give it to me while I’m breathing. If anybody wants to disagree, just go look at the f—ing numbers and have a Coke and smile.
Paul Dehner Jr.
Paul Dehner Jr. is a senior writer and podcast host for The Athletic. He's been covering the Bengals and NFL since 2009, most notably, for six seasons with The Cincinnati Enquirer. He's born, raised and proudly Cincinnati. Follow Paul on Twitter @pauldehnerjr