Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by stripesincarolina » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:12 pm

Jmble wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm
4256 Hits wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
I fully understood not continuing the game on Monday but to not play this weekend is weak.

Unfortunately people get seriously hurt or die at workplaces regularly. All of those businesses don't just shut down for a week+ because of it. Have the maturity to move on and do your job.
Honestly, if he would have died, I would have understood. The fact that he's now awake and communicating with doctors and seems to be on the upswing, I think any talk of not playing at all this weekend is going to disappear.
And....as if right on cue, the fans are getting restless about the seeding and playoffs. If the Bengals lay an egg this weekend I have to think that mentally we could be on the losing end of this situation. The guys were so hyped up and confident. I cant help but think the wind is out of our sails. Conversely, the news today about Damar is going to propel and motivate the Bills like crazy. I think they may end up being unstoppable.
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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by 4256 Hits » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:28 pm

Jmble wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm
4256 Hits wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
I fully understood not continuing the game on Monday but to not play this weekend is weak.

Unfortunately people get seriously hurt or die at workplaces regularly. All of those businesses don't just shut down for a week+ because of it. Have the maturity to move on and do your job.
Honestly, if he would have died, I would have understood. The fact that he's now awake and communicating with doctors and seems to be on the upswing, I think any talk of not playing at all this weekend is going to disappear.
I disagree. I have worked at places that had employees die due to workplace accidents. The employees had to go back to work making products and shipping products (earning a paycheck) otherwise customer would have been unhappy and went to a competitor (of course NFL doesn't have competitors).

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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by skycruiser » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:06 pm

We had a 35 year employee suffer a heart attack and die at work several years ago. Incredibly traumatic event. We were back working the next day.

The difference is, we weren’t faced with a reality that it could be us at any point in our jobs. So I get the apprehension from some players given the reality of the risks in the workplace

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Post by skycruiser » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:07 pm

That said, the rats suck and we’re gonna smoke those fools

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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by Bengals1 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:32 pm

skycruiser wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:07 pm
That said, the rats suck and we’re gonna smoke those fools
Looking less likely Jamar will play.
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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by Bengals1 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:29 pm

Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
The Bengals will be recognized as the AFC North champions regardless of the outcome of Sunday’s game, per league source.

A coin flip could end up deciding home field in a playoff rematch with the #Ravens. But Cincinnati has the higher winning percentage and has won the title.


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Cincy will be the AFC North champion, but won't have the benefits of being the champ (with a home playoff game), but will have a harder schedule next year, and potentially a later draft pick. It's not perfect, assume they are not pleased. Alas.
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Post by 4256 Hits » Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 pm

Bengals1 wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:29 pm
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
The Bengals will be recognized as the AFC North champions regardless of the outcome of Sunday’s game, per league source.

A coin flip could end up deciding home field in a playoff rematch with the #Ravens. But Cincinnati has the higher winning percentage and has won the title.


Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Cincy will be the AFC North champion, but won't have the benefits of being the champ (with a home playoff game), but will have a harder schedule next year, and potentially a later draft pick. It's not perfect, assume they are not pleased. Alas.
That is stupid. So for play-off purposes they are treating Monday night game sort of like a loss in a game they were leading 7-3. Goodell is a clown.

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Post by Zoo » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:10 am

4256 Hits wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:45 pm
Bengals1 wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:29 pm
Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
The Bengals will be recognized as the AFC North champions regardless of the outcome of Sunday’s game, per league source.

A coin flip could end up deciding home field in a playoff rematch with the #Ravens. But Cincinnati has the higher winning percentage and has won the title.


Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Cincy will be the AFC North champion, but won't have the benefits of being the champ (with a home playoff game), but will have a harder schedule next year, and potentially a later draft pick. It's not perfect, assume they are not pleased. Alas.
That is stupid. So for play-off purposes they are treating Monday night game sort of like a loss in a game they were leading 7-3. Goodell is a clown.
Goodell is a clown. But, ultimately it was the players union that agreed to these terms. I think if the Bengals, Bills and Chiefs all win. Chiefs get a bye and Cincinnati and Buffalo host wild card games. I think 🤔

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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by Bengals1 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:41 am

We're gonna' get screwed over big time folks.... :x

From PFT...

As Commissioner Roger Goodell acknowledged in a statement issued on Thursday, “there is no perfect solution” to the cancellation of the Bills-Bengals game. However, the NFL’s Policy Manual for Member Clubs, Game Operations 2022 Edition already has contemplated the imperfect process that will apply in the event a game is cancelled.

Playoff seeding is determined by winning percentages.

That applies to any cancellation of a game, whether in Week One or Week 18 or any week in between. The Bills-Bengals game was indeed cancelled. The league previously created a specific rule that applies to the cancellation of games.

Fair or not, that’s the rule. The NFL is now proposing to ownership an impromptu change to the rules. That’s why 24 owners must approve of this adjustment to the applicable protocol, during the season.

The Bengals, one of the teams directly affected by the proposal on which the owners will vote on Friday, have emphasized this point.

“The proper process for making rule change is in the off-season,” executive V.P. Katie Blackburn wrote in a memo obtained by ESPN.com. “It is not appropriate to put teams in a position to vote for something that may introduce bias, favor one team over another or impact their own situation when the vote takes place immediately before the playoffs.”

The mere fact that a game is canceled, whatever the reason, is highly unusual. It hasn’t happened in a non-strike year since 1935. Whether due to weather or illness or injury or any other extraordinary factor that would keep a game from being played, the league has already determined the approach that will apply.

Frankly, this should have been simple. It shouldn’t have taken multiple days to figure it out. It shouldn’t have required memos and meetings and conversations and backroom deals and efforts to drop grains of rice on the two sides of the scale in order to balance out any potential inequity. The rule is the rule. If a game is canceled, playoff seeding is determined by winning percentage, without neutral sites or coin flips or any other proposal that was discussed or raised or considered, from adding an eighth team to neutralize the benefit of a bye that was obtained unfairly to the arguably kooky notion that the Chiefs, if they beat the Raiders on Saturday, would have had to choose between taking a week off or having home-field advantage in an AFC Championship against the Bills or Bengals.

The league can now claim that the various possibilities that were discussed or raised or considered actually weren’t. The truth is that no other possibilities should have been considered, because there’s already a rule that provides the answer to the question.

Instead, the owners will consider on Friday the ultra-extraordinary step of changes the rules DURING a season. Time and again during the two-plus decades PFT has been in existence, it has been explained that rules deemed to be inappropriate or unfair would not be changed during the season. When voting tomorrow, the owners need to realize the unprecedented nature of the step they’d be taking.

Frankly, the currently proposed approach falls squarely into the category of “making it up as we go.” If the league wanted to have the flexibility to fashion an outcome based on the specific facts of a given case (as it’s doing here), the rules would provide for that. They don’t.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s the right decision or the best of various bad options. There’s a rule on the books. The owners will be considering a change to that rule, during a season.

They have the power to do it, obviously. But everyone needs to understand what this means. Settled, codified rules don’t matter during a given season, if 24 owners suddenly decide they no longer matter. The owners need to be prepared to cross that Rubicon when voting on the proposals they’ll consider on Friday.

It doesn’t matter that the Competition Committee voted in favor of the proposed change. The owners can, and do, reject proposals made by the Competition Committee in the offseason.

It also doesn’t matter that some teams harbor resentment (and they do) toward Bengals owner Mike Brown, who has a habit of voting against proposals on which the vast majority of other clubs agree. Some may be tempted to “stick it” to Brown by approving a rule that, even if the Bengals have a better winning percentage than the Ravens, a head-to-head sweep by Baltimore would result in a coin toss to determine home field, if the two teams are set to play each other in the wild-card round.

The league often justifies the imposition of punishment by explaining that the actions of a team or a person undermine the integrity of the game, and public confidence in professional football. Before ignoring previously-crafted rules in favor of something that seems to better address a given set of facts, the owners need to ask themselves whether that action, in and of itself, undermines the integrity of the game, and/or public confidence in professional football.

Again, they can do whatever at least 24 of them want to do. But they need to realize the broader impact of what they’d be doing.

Once this starts, where does it end? Would the owners change the rules regarding roughing the passer during a season? Would they make pass inference a 15-yard penalty and not a spot foul during a season? Would they alter the overtime rules during a season?

This isn’t about fairness or unfairness to the Chiefs, Bills, Ravens, or Bengals. It’s about whether the rules on the books will remain on the books until a given season ends. If the rules are going to change during a given season, that potentially changes everything.
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Re: Cats vs Rats Pre Game Chatter & Predictions

Post by Joe Bananas » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:47 am

So like someone explain what all this means to the idiots, like me?
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