2020 Season - Will they play?

[Jmble]

Well MLB just nearly imploded and may yet do so. The unGodly sense of entitlement with these athletes is just over the top ridiculous. The salaries have increased to simply unrealistic levels and yet when the time get tough they take their ball and go home. Pro team sports may never be the same after this. Marginal franchises will need bailouts before next year. And the downstream revenue hits will collapse the infrastructure from stadiums to vendors to parking decks.

Grab your popcorn, you are about to witness history in the sports world.

Oh, and we haven't even begun to talk about the bankruptcy coming with colleges that are heavily dependent on sports revenue (football). That will be the story of the fall.

Your one sided arguments for the billionaire baseball owners are just killing me. All the players want is to be paid for the games they play. That's it. They don't want a full year's salary for 60 games. They want to be paid for 60 games. God Damn them for wanting to be paid to do exactly what they are supposed to do. Those Bastards! What absolute entitlement crap! The players want to play and we are lucky they want to play because many of the owners would be much happier if the season was scratched and no baseball was played this year.

I'm not saying it's all on the owners. both sides have screwed this up. They should have been able to figure something out well before this. And I'm afraid that after 2021 it's only going to get worse because both Rob Manfred and Tony Clark are terrible at their job. This was bad but it can be overcome. There are far too many things going on right now for people to have this as the biggest issue on their plates. If the mini season happens, people will watch because they are looking for a distraction and anything that feels normal. I know I am. But if a season gets delayed or cancelled a year after this mess it's going to drive people away for good. Baseball is doing fine (before all this) but in some people's minds it still hasn't recovered from cancelling the season the last time this happened. It could be the last straw for a lot of people.

From Ken Rosenthal's column in The Athletic today about the final mandate

In the end, we were left with owners who wouldn't kick in an average of just over $4 million per club to play 65 games instead of 60, and players who for all their newfound unity could have ended up better off in any number of ways by striking a deal. The league's implementation of a schedule only figures to drive the parties further apart, and more bad will is the last thing this sport needs.

[MeatHeadbengal]

The players want to play and we are lucky they want to play because many of the owners would be much happier if the season was scratched and no baseball was played this year.

Now I think this is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on here in a long time. Not a single owner would be happier if they scratched the season. I get your argument and I agree with you both sides F'd this up royally but to make this intellectually dishonest statement, you're just as bad as stripes with is one sided post.

[Jmble]

The players want to play and we are lucky they want to play because many of the owners would be much happier if the season was scratched and no baseball was played this year.

Now I think this is one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on here in a long time. Not a single owner would be happier if they scratched the season. I get your argument and I agree with you both sides F'd this up royally but to make this intellectually dishonest statement, you're just as bad as stripes with is one sided post.

It took me two seconds to google this. And I didn't say most, I said many. 6-8 owners is 20 to 25 percent of the league. I'd call that many.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/six- ... er-report/

[MeatHeadbengal]

It took me two seconds to google this. And I didn't say most, I said many. 6-8 owners is 20 to 25 percent of the league. I'd call that many.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/six- ... er-report/

"there are definitely more than eight owners who don't want to play." Whether that's the case or simply speculation is unclear. None of the suspected hardlining owners are named either way.

This is from you're linked article, he states that's it's true then in the very next sentence says it's unclear... WHICH IS IT!!! WTF MEDIA!! As a business owner I can tell you that NO business owner in the world wants their product shut down. So I think this is 100% conjecture at this point!

[Jmble]

It took me two seconds to google this. And I didn't say most, I said many. 6-8 owners is 20 to 25 percent of the league. I'd call that many.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/six- ... er-report/

"there are definitely more than eight owners who don't want to play." Whether that's the case or simply speculation is unclear. None of the suspected hardlining owners are named either way.

This is from you're linked article, he states that's it's true then in the very next sentence says it's unclear... WHICH IS IT!!! WTF MEDIA!! As a business owner I can tell you that NO business owner in the world wants their product shut down. So I think this is 100% conjecture at this point!

The "unclear" portion is whether it's six or eight. The six is what is being reported. The Eight is speculation from an agent.

The owners that don't want to play, don't want to play because they think they are going to lose money do to no fans in the stadium and possible health concerns? How is that not clear? I didn't say owners hate baseball and never want to play again. They don't want to lose money. Isn't that EXACTLY the way a business runs?

[MeatHeadbengal]

It took me two seconds to google this. And I didn't say most, I said many. 6-8 owners is 20 to 25 percent of the league. I'd call that many.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/six- ... er-report/

"there are definitely more than eight owners who don't want to play." Whether that's the case or simply speculation is unclear. None of the suspected hardlining owners are named either way.

This is from you're linked article, he states that's it's true then in the very next sentence says it's unclear... WHICH IS IT!!! WTF MEDIA!! As a business owner I can tell you that NO business owner in the world wants their product shut down. So I think this is 100% conjecture at this point!

The "unclear" portion is whether it's six or eight. The six is what is being reported. The Eight is speculation from an agent.

The owners that don't want to play, don't want to play because they think they are going to lose money do to no fans in the stadium and possible health concerns? How is that not clear? I didn't say owners hate baseball and never want to play again. They don't want to lose money. Isn't that EXACTLY the way a business runs?

You can't defend that it's unclear and he's not naming sources so it's 100% conjecture. Also you'd be silly to think that these owners aren't going to lose money if they don't play the season. Seriously use logic man!

[MeatHeadbengal]

I'm not defending either party I think both royally F'd it up. Just to think that one party is more at risk then the other is silly, they both need each other and they both are going to lose a crap ton of money over this.

[Jmble]

This is from you're linked article, he states that's it's true then in the very next sentence says it's unclear... WHICH IS IT!!! WTF MEDIA!! As a business owner I can tell you that NO business owner in the world wants their product shut down. So I think this is 100% conjecture at this point!

The "unclear" portion is whether it's six or eight. The six is what is being reported. The Eight is speculation from an agent.

The owners that don't want to play, don't want to play because they think they are going to lose money do to no fans in the stadium and possible health concerns? How is that not clear? I didn't say owners hate baseball and never want to play again. They don't want to lose money. Isn't that EXACTLY the way a business runs?

You can't defend that it's unclear and he's not naming sources so it's 100% conjecture. Also you'd be silly to think that these owners aren't going to lose money if they don't play the season. Seriously use logic man!

Logic = No season. No pay for players. Season - Lots of pay for players. No tickets sold. No concessions sold. No National TV deal like the NFL has. Bigger loss of money. Bigger risk of players getting sick and season getting stopped. Sure teams like the Yankees and Red Sox and the California teams are in fine shape. I didn't teams wouldn't lose any money if they don't play and I didn't even say that I blame them for feeling that way. All I stated from the beginning is that those of us who want to see baseball are lucky that the players want to play because they could have made it even worse than it already is.

[Jmble]

I'm not defending either party I think both royally F'd it up. Just to think that one party is more at risk then the other is silly, they both need each other and they both are going to lose a crap ton of money over this.

I 100 percent agree with this statement. If it seems like I'm totally defending the players, I am not. My point was just in argument to Stripes putting the entire blame on the players "sense of entitlement".

[MeatHeadbengal]

I'm not defending either party I think both royally F'd it up. Just to think that one party is more at risk then the other is silly, they both need each other and they both are going to lose a crap ton of money over this.

I 100 percent agree with this statement. If it seems like I'm totally defending the players, I am not. My point was just in argument to Stripes putting the entire blame on the players "sense of entitlement".

My biggest issue is to think that one party is going to be worse then the other which is simply not the case. They are both going to be losing money, and that article without any sources isn't fact, the way the media's made up narratives over the past years is literally sickening!